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Old 11-10-2007, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So... they made you change the name eh?
Blame mariantic-if it weren't for them this site would still be invisible
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So... they made you change the name eh?
Blame mariantic-if it weren't for them this site would still be invisible
Marianatic had nothing to do with the decision to go live. He was in on the early beta testing and was kind enough to put a link to the site when we went live. I appreciate his efforts.

The name was NOT changed. The URL was changed based on a request. I have absolutely NO problem with the request or changing the URL. The site is week old and have over 100 registrations.

If the site is to stand on its own, the URL will not be a deciding factor. Content, a reliable interface, fair and reasonable moderation and the quality of the participants WILL make the difference.

The goal and direction of the site has not changed. We remain committed to supporting and growing the fan base of the American Le Mans. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

With that said, I'd invite you all to join me on the high road. The view is much better up here.

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Old 11-10-2007, 06:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Ken. You know I truly appreciate your support and I know you want nothing but the best for the site.. I know you're passion is that of a supportive friend. But, I'd ask that you edit your post... in-as-much as we want to be sure our posture and the position of this site remains World Class.

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Old 11-10-2007, 06:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I hear ya John about the high road.

Seems a bit petty, IMO though...can you imagine...NASCAR, IndyCar, Champ Car, MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL...etc... telling fan sites to not use their name in any manner.

It would be a tragedy if potential fans stumbled across a ALMS fan site, with members that have a passion for the racing.

Lets take a quick poll:
http://www.nascarconnections.com/...check
http://www.indycaronline.com/...check
http://www.champcarworld.net/pages/news.php?lg=us...check
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/...check
http://www.nflfans.com/...check
http://www.nbadraft.net/...check
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/...check

Not to mention individual team sites like...
http://www.yankeeshater.com/...check
http://www.udubdish.com/...check
and just for Ken http://www.osubuckeyes.com/...check

Seems fan sites with names of teams and sports is not a original idea.

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Marianatic had nothing to do with the decision to go live. He was in on the early beta testing and was kind enough to put a link to the site when we went live. I appreciate his efforts.

The name was NOT changed. The URL was changed based on a request. I have absolutely NO problem with the request or changing the URL. The site is week old and have over 100 registrations.

If the site is to stand on its own, the URL will not be a deciding factor. Content, a reliable interface, fair and reasonable moderation and the quality of the participants WILL make the difference.

The goal and direction of the site has not changed. We remain committed to supporting and growing the fan base of the American Le Mans. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

With that said, I'd invite you all to join me on the high road. The view is much better up here.

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Well said.

I am sure most of you know this, but it is still worth saying.

Copyrights and Trademarks are tricky things. Neither are valid unless you actively protect that mark. This can lead to seemingly random, inconsistent and uneven application of rights by the owner of the mark. Even if something is good for the mark, and I think this site is good for the ALMS, they still have to protect the usage of the mark (brand name, trademark, etc).

Sometimes they go overboard with their protective actions, but that is usually better than the alternative in their eyes. There is a reason that we use Refrigerators and Murphy Beds today. They are generic now, but they used to be brand names. They were not protected properly and fell into general use.

Look at it this way. F1 actually polices Youtube and has any clips taken from their broadcasts and has them removed. You can't use "F1" "Formula One" "Formula 1" or any other combination of spelling and abbreviation for commercial or other material without F1's approval. You are thinking, "jeesh, I am just using the name so fans can find my site". But to the owners of the mark, that is something that must be protected or they lose the rights to that mark.

This is a simple change for this site and it won't hurt anything. Like JT says, it is the content that is important.
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Just to add a few more
http://www.planetlemans.co.uk/
http://www.f1forums.net
http://www.planetf1.com/
http://www.f1technical.net/
http://www.f1-racing.org/
http://www.f1-fansite.com/
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John,
Do whatever you need to do to keep this place up and running. It's already a hit in my view. I don't believe the URL change is an issue at all.

As far as taking the high road... Ken, when you come out of your cave mourning the loss to who? What team? Oh yeah... they weren't ranked. That's right... so go ahead and pick your best three Corkscrew pics and post 'em. We'll wait for the tears to dry up.

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Just to be clear... I wasn't trying to take any low blows. I just thought of the word association and thought it as a humorous little quip.
And name change/URL change... meh, on t'intanets what I type into the bar is the name to me ().
To be honest I thought "almsforums.com" was a little close to begin with-it could be misconstrued as official.
(Mariantic was the only source I'd seen for this site, that's why I mentioned them)
Thanks for doing what you've got to JT, and for starting all this in the first place.
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
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http://www.planetlemans.co.uk/
Since when can't we use the name of a French town in our website?

Serious. As long as the people here act the same as they did with the letters A L M S in the url it won't make a difference. And by doing this you might even create a dedicated sportscar forum instead of an ALMS only forum in the future. Not sure if that is what you want to happen now though?

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